Medical Fitness Report
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You're getting ready to send Atlantis back to Pegasus. Or perhaps you are among a handful of secret plotters planning to steal the city and return it on your own, knowing it means permanent estrangement from Earth.
Which doctor inspired more confidence, Carson or Keller? (names chosen in this format because it had a nice ring to it)
Who made the better CMO?
Which is more likely to say, "Yes, I'll go back to Pegasus?"
Which is more likely to turn a blind eye to the stealing of Atlantis if TPTB won't send the city back? Which is more likely to actively aid, even if they didn't intend on going back themselves? Would either one rat on the rest of the expedition planning such a risky move?
If you could send *any* medical doctor, either in this fandom or another, who would you choose?
You're getting ready to send Atlantis back to Pegasus. Or perhaps you are among a handful of secret plotters planning to steal the city and return it on your own, knowing it means permanent estrangement from Earth.
Which doctor inspired more confidence, Carson or Keller? (names chosen in this format because it had a nice ring to it)
Who made the better CMO?
Which is more likely to say, "Yes, I'll go back to Pegasus?"
Which is more likely to turn a blind eye to the stealing of Atlantis if TPTB won't send the city back? Which is more likely to actively aid, even if they didn't intend on going back themselves? Would either one rat on the rest of the expedition planning such a risky move?
If you could send *any* medical doctor, either in this fandom or another, who would you choose?
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Date: 2010-08-11 06:05 pm (UTC)For me, Carson inspired more confidence, and made an excellent CMO. Keller was not that interesting to me. I think she'd have more qualms about leaving Earth behind, as this would most likely be a one way trip.
I don't know if I see her ratting on the others, unless as a way of keeping Rodney from returning. But, in my mind, they broke up three days after returning to Earth :)
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Date: 2010-08-11 06:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-11 06:16 pm (UTC)Who made the better CMO?
Carson.
Which is more likely to say, "Yes, I'll go back to Pegasus?"
Carson.
Which is more likely to turn a blind eye to the stealing of Atlantis if TPTB won't send the city back? Carson Which is more likely to actively aid, even if they didn't intend on going back themselves? Keller/Carson Would either one rat on the rest of the expedition planning such a risky move? Never.
If you could send *any* medical doctor, either in this fandom or another, who would you chooseCarson has to go back. Because Keller and Rodney have broken up, she will likely stay on Earth. But her work with the people of Pegasus is important to her as well and since she and Ronon belong together....or maybe she'll follow Evan?
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Date: 2010-08-11 06:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-11 06:32 pm (UTC)Since I am a doctor myself, I tend to like about any doctor I come across in a tv-series. I actually became a doctor because I used to watch MASH as a kid - yes, I want to be Hawkeye, no, I don't drink on the job.
I liked Carson a lot because he was, well, Carson. He had the bedsidemanner down pat (Keller? Seriously? "Let me play around with your insides?" WTF?) and he was a brilliant geneticist who killed mice and fucked sheep - oh, wait, that's not a good thing. And probably not even true. And the scottish brogue and the nice eyes, and all that.
Keller is sweet and in fandom at least a brilliant surgeon, but honestly, she IS a bit too young to be CMO. I know my people, doctors are fiercely loyal against any outsiders but we bicker and fight among ourselves, and the one thing that is always respected is a solid medical knowledge together with experience. She might be a prodigy but you have to see a certain number of patients to get your intuition working (And Carson would NEVER, EVER have missed Rodney being too nice in the Shrine! And he WOULD have brought a full medical kit!)
Sooo - I'd pick Carson. And maybe he could talk Keller into staying as his second. I don't think either of them would have ratted on the rest if they planned to steal Atlantis, though.
If I could bring any doctor at all to Atlantis it would be Bones McCoy, since he can cure about anything in Star trek at least. Age, experience, knowledge, a nice ass and a bitchy attitude.
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Date: 2010-08-11 06:53 pm (UTC)Hmmmm. I'll be honest - I'm not sure either one were the confidence-inspiring types. Carson probably had a bit of an edge over Keller, until you think of his wishy-washy ethics. Not so sure I'd want him making decisions for me. I think in order to inspire confidence, you have to BE confident, and both of them seemed to lack that.
Better CMO? We weren't really shown that part of their life, were we? And wouldn't that have been an interesting episode? A day in the life of the Chief Medical Officer of Atlantis. What would that have been like? Four parts mundane mixed in with one part terrifying?
Who is more likely to go back? Carson. Keller might go back, but I'm thinking not as CMO. I don't think she ever got comfortable in that role, and doubted herself too much. But go back as what she was when she originally joined, (which was what, by the way? Do we know?)I think she might.
I really like the idea of Keller staying back on earth and setting up some kind of smokescreen, though, and actively aiding and abetting the Lanteans to steal their city back.
As for which medical doctor? Hee. Dr. Cuddy. No, seriously. She's put up with House for years, and she's smart, sexy, and tough as nails when she needs to be. Yeah. Plus, I might be able to see a Carson/Cuddy ship. *g*
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Date: 2010-08-11 06:57 pm (UTC)2) Carson
3) Carson
4) Carson (Hell, he's (well, V1.0) already aided and abetted a mutiny in The Return. *g* I do think that Keller would rat them out, especially if she didn't want to go back and Rodney did.
5) Ooh, Robert Picardo's doctor from Voyager because that would be fun and confusing. LOL
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Date: 2010-08-11 07:04 pm (UTC)However between Keller and Carson...well, honestly, Keller clearly made the cut to get the position in the first place, and I think her fuck up in The Shrine was not as glaring as some fans tend to spin it. And it is not as if Carson was always perfect himself.
So, I can't stand on the medical issues to declare one the winner. What I think is important are two facts:
1. Keller is more of an Earthling than an Lantean - thinking outside the box isn't exactly her forte, and personally I can only see her being horrified at the idea of going back to Pegasus "for good."
2. Carson is a clone - the SGC can make a place for him and he remembers his mother and all that, but he's not really Carson, and he knows it. He's got nothing to lose by leaving Earth.
Carson is cautious by nature but pragmatic, so I don't see him crying in his beer about the idea of moving camp to Pegasus permanently. He is also someone who does think outside the box, and would be more valuable as CMO for that reason.
....I hope that all made sense?
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Date: 2010-08-11 07:05 pm (UTC)Keller, I wouldn't see her leaving with the City if she had a choice, but I think she would help them leave any way she can.
To be honest, for either of them, I've never felt much that they actually belonged to the Pegasus Galaxy, unlike some other people. It always felt as if they would rather be somewhere else, doing something else.
The only Doctor I've ever really liked in the Franchise was Janet Fraser from SG1, she had ethics, was very much no nonsense and yet had enough of an open mind to accept that some things where just out of her realm.
I don't know how she would fair on Atlantis though.
In SGA, I don't know if Marie was supposed to be a nurse or a doctor, but she's the one I liked the best of all the medical team. She felt... there. She felt Atlantian, if you know what I mean.
I always thought she should have become CMO when Carson died, she had the experience, the leveled head and she was one of the first to come, which in my mind is just invaluable, for the links it created between people back then.
So yeah, if I had to take a vote, I would make Marie a doctor and have her become the CMO of Atlantis. She would take Carson with them if he wanted, so he could continue his own Pegasus DWB, and she would also ask Teyla to help her meet people with other types of medicines, because she would know that to keep going in the Pegasus Galaxy, they would need to adapt themselves rather than the contrary ^_^
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Date: 2010-08-11 07:07 pm (UTC)On the other hand, I could really see House getting off on a whole other universe of things to add to the rule out list. And he'd be sending his poor
slavescolleagues on wild goose chases off world to track down Iratus bugs in their nests. Oh. Wait...Might be hard to keep him supplied in pain killers though!
Carson inspired more confidence in me as a *doctor* than Jennifer. I can appreciate both having qualms about being in Pegasus in the first place or feeling like they were way in over their heads. But I feel that Jennifer's youth and clinical inexperience makes her a poor CMO choice.
Also, John showed more out of the box thinking during The Shrine than she did. That should have been *her* place to shine. And in Brainstorm, apparently when the writers placed her in a little black dress, they revoked her medical license. Shouldn't she have been attending to the flash frozen guy? Why didn't she demand warm dry clothing when moments before she was dying of hypothermia? Okay, maybe her brain wasn't working for a while there, but the whole plane ride home? In wet clothes?? That was just silly on the part of the writers there.
Yeah, I think Jennifer and Rodney broke up pretty quickly as well on the return to Earth. I suspect without the joint experience of Atlantis, they discovered that they really had very little in common. :-)
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Date: 2010-08-11 07:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-11 07:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-11 07:10 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-11 07:14 pm (UTC)As a medical professional, does it bug you when they get the medical details wrong or can you just enjoy it anyway? I used to know someone who would go into elaborate detail as to why everything depicted was wrong, wrong, wrong. I can usually watch it with suspension of disbelief unless it is blatantly wrong, you know?
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Date: 2010-08-11 07:36 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-11 07:38 pm (UTC)I missed SGA when they aired it on Norwegian TV, only caught an episode here and there. Brainstorm is one of the first episodes I remember watching, and I kept shaking my head at this "relationship". I did not understand it at all. To me, Keller seemed like the token pretty girl, and didn't really do it for me, character wise. Luckily, Norwegian TV started a rerun of the series not long afterwards, and I got to see it from the beginning. After seeing Rising, I just had to buy the series :) "I-I just sat down."
I always had confidence in Carson, but never with Keller. And her behavior in The Shrine just baffled me.
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Date: 2010-08-11 08:01 pm (UTC)I can easily accept that people wing it with the science if it helps the plot, but I get bugged out when everyone can do anything. As in House - no nurses. Oh, maybe a pretty slim one in a short dress showing up to tell them something but generally, they're on their own. And the same fucking people do the examinations, check the cell cultures, put the patient in the MRI and of course can interpret the results easily, and the worst thing of all - when the patient has a severe anaphylactic reaction in the MRI lab, they do NOT raise the alarm, no, they give ONE dose of *insert generic medicine here*, and then promptly proceeds to cutting the throat open.
I don't believe that. That bugs me.
I actually find MASH and Scrubs the most realistic medical shows, they do show off the absurdities, the teamwork and the complete horror of suddenly being in over your head and having to make it work very, very well.
But it doesn't bug me at all when they turn Sheppard into a bug and cures him via retro-virus-therapy. I could give you a list on why this is so not a good idea, but it makes for an interesting and believable episode, so I simply turn a blind eye to it.
(But I LOVE dr House. Just imagine walking into the reception of the ER shouting "Hello, sickos!")
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Date: 2010-08-11 08:05 pm (UTC)I agree with you about Bones...I've been itching to have Bone and Carson in a crossover. That would be a hoot!
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Date: 2010-08-11 08:30 pm (UTC)First of all, I think the producers were smitten with her and didn’t care if they wrote anything that made any sense. She was right to beat up on herself during the Shrine. She shouldn’t have missed that big a behavioral change in Rodney.
So…the answers to the questions…
Carson inspires more confidence.
Carson is the better CMO.
Carson would return to Pegasus in heartbeat…not only to be on Atlantis with his friends but with the Pegasus natives he feels responsible for. I also believe that Keller would go back as well without hesitation, especially if she was still involved with Rodney.
Carson would be quicker to aid in the rightful recapture of Atlantis by the people she belongs to, but I think Jennifer would help and neither one of them would rat the others out.
Doctor to go with them….ummm…I know I’d love to see Bones McCoy, as
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Date: 2010-08-11 08:59 pm (UTC)I want the Aussie. Even if he revealed a hatred of fat people in the early years. THAT episode infuriating me.
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Date: 2010-08-11 09:42 pm (UTC)But for the most part, in non-medical shows, I don't mind that they play fast and loose with the science aspect of things. I'm not sitting there saying, "OMG, they used the wrong dose of atropine!" or picking apart all the medical details.
I'd kinda like to see House face his first Wraith. :-)
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Date: 2010-08-11 10:02 pm (UTC)Damn it, I want my doctors to act like professionals! :-)
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Date: 2010-08-11 10:06 pm (UTC)Me, I'd want Janet Frasier. Though I am leaning towards Bones now (especially if he's Karl Urban). And The Doctor from Voyager--that would be a nice touch! (If they can clone Carson, why not Janet? And do we know what happened to clone!Carson all those months in Micheal's prison camp? Is there any fic?)
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Date: 2010-08-11 10:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2010-08-11 10:09 pm (UTC)(I stopped watching House when I realized I was trying to beat him to the answer each week and that seemed too much like work to be any fun :-)