Rewatch: The Siege - Part 3 (Start of S2!!)

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Once again the self-destruct button has been activated and people all over the city seem to be falling at the hands of the Wraith, colonel Everett, Teyla and now also Ford, who falls into the water. Sheppard is the only hope, he's on a suicide mission to nuke one of the two remaining hive ships. Just about to launch the bomb, he gets a message that he needs to decloak. The Daedalus has arrived and the ship is equipped with powerful equipment from the Asgard, including beaming technology. Its commander, Colonel Steven Caldwell, beams Sheppard aboard before the nuke goes off. By beaming a nuke into the last remaining hive ship, Atlantis seems saved. Then Zelenka detects 12 more hive ships on their way. Meanwhile Ford has been found. He should be dead, but Beckett finds out he received an overdose of Wraith enzyme. He's now addicted to it and seems remarkably strong.  [Poll #1788486]

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Vicious gun battle, and Aiden in a tussle with a Wraith, going over a railing with a grenade. Yikes.

A voice out of the dark to John Sheppard. Eeee!! Talk about in the nick of time. The Daedalus has arrived. What a great introduction of this ship. Saving John and then beaming down the ZPM. I love McKay snapping to attention, and then John refocusing him from space.

I don't know who the Asgard are, although I do know they were in the first series, but that is some fine technology they share. It's a good thing they don't mind their stuff being used as weapons - so many of SciFi's advanced species don't like that.

Heh, Rodney doesn't like the skimpiness of his military protection. Rodney tells them he...not, the ZPM...and him, must be protected at all costs.

Then Rodney can't keep quiet - the pour military personnel, no one could prepare them to babysit someone like him.

Ooops, they get into quite a situation. Rodney's babysitters do give their lives for Rodney and the ZPM. Love Rodney's bravado, and then the clip falling out of his gun. Luckily, Teyla shows up just in time. Then, Rodney has her lead the way. *g*

Only there is only 45 seconds to get the shield up. Go go, Rodney. Poor Rodney, all the pressure seems to be surely on his shoulders through most crises. Of course, I don't think he'd actually want it any other way.

Sheppard is back! What a hug he gets from Elizabeth. What a sweet reunion.

Ooo, going to see the colonel. Yikes. The poor man. And, now he finally understands the kindness he paid to the colonel's friend.

It's bizarre. There was all this buildup to the episode, they left it at the most cliffhanger part they could, and now it's all be resolved in less than half the show. I'm surprised it wasn't stretched out longer, to fill more of the first episode of the new season.

Part 1A

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Yay! It's S2.

I'm re-rewatching with audio commentary, with the two Martins, David Hewlett AND Joe Flanigan. Yadda, yadda, the Martins are talking and I'm NOT listening.

Okay, putting holes in Wraith: I can get behind that plan. That was quick thinking about pulling the grenade, but – at zero range – it sorta, kinda backfired and threw him into the ocean. Man down.

Here's a twist and it seems so ... placid with John on the cloaked jumper headed down the Hive ship's throat. In the meantime, here's a very tense Rodney counting down to zero.

We learn that the bomb is different this time from the "Previously on" scene. They ... uh ... "upgraded the bomb". They're laughing about David's hair being different in Seige III (shot 4 months later).

God, their acting is so good that – even though I know what happens – Paul, David and Torri are still making me cry. I can only imagine how much worse I felt the first time I saw the epi.

Oh, thank goodness. Chuck announces the presence of another ship. Hey, did somebody leave the welcome mat out? But it's a good thing they did, because it's ... John! Of course, there's disbelief. Which is met with typical snark. John: "What other Sheppards do you know?"

A very emotional Carson and still-tense Rodney are relieved, too. But Caldwell doesn't sound like the hard-ass he seems to become later. His voice is quite pleasant. May as well abort the self-destruct.

David says that Mitch Pileggi is "surprisingly sexy". Don't take just David's word for it. People Magazine said so, too. David's been teasing him about it.

Christmas came very early this year for Rodney. So he snaps to attention when addressed. And gets ... a ZedPM beamed down which freaks Carson out. I guess the poor man never watched Star Trek growing up. But Rodney knows it was Asgard tech. While he's busy starting to babble, John reminds him that they might just want to get the shields back up. Oh, great idea, John. The look on Rodney's face is incandescent. He's one very, very happy camper.

Mind you, they're not out of trouble yet. Caldwell says they'll take care of the sister Hive ship, then come back for any stray Wraith on the city. With John standing on the bridge, we can see how shiny and new the ship really is. And we get our Star Wars moment with the space guns blazing. With burner exhausts on the ships really reminding us of SW.

The Martins say they got their own in-house SFX dept., so they could walk across the hall and ask for something. They called it their ILM. Yeah, like the puny Canadian version.

Part 1B

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Whoa. That's where they stuck in the opening credits. It's a really rough intrusion. Now, to my eye, it looks exactly like the opener from S1.

Yes, my eye is right. The Martins confirmed they wanted to keep the old main title for the first 2-3 episodes. Because Rainbow's still in these and Ronon's not.

So, back to the ever-present whine of darts and Everett in very close combat with a Wraith who refuses to drop even though he's being shot repeatedly. Unfortunately, Everett finds himself at the end of a feeding hand.

That part was shot during Seige II.

There's some more sharp shooting taking down the darts. Back on the bridge, we get a transmission from Lindsay Novak. And there's Hermiod, too.

The Martins are talking about all the shiny SFX aboard. And ... the puppet! David's talking about how much fun it was to work with Ellie Harvie who plays Lindsay. He said he was killing himself laughing. "She's just genius." One of the Martins was saying they deliberately went for Hermiod to be as cantankerous as he was, 'cuz otherwise they're so advanced, yadda-yadda. I think they did say "dickish" first; and they definitely did say "pissy". Rodney says Joe does NOT like the puppet and Joe admits he's tried to kill him a number of times. Uh-oh. David says Joe referred to him as "Hemorrhoid".

But, darn, they're not able to get close to the Hive, as the missiles are being intercepted by suicidal darts.

Back on Atlantis, Rodney's getting a two-man security escort for himself ... uh ... well along with the ZedPM. Of course he has to tell them how valuable he is. Liz thinks that's a bit much, so he amends his priority that it's the ZedPM needing the utmost protection. ::giggles:: And him.

They're talking about using a steady-cam and the operator's name was Nathaniel Massey who just happens to be, according to Joe, the grandson of Raymond Massey and the great-grandson of Vincent Massey. Hey, Canadian trivia!

Liz gets some unsettling news from Chuck that they've lost contact with several teams. Uh-oh.

Yes, we've heard it how many times that Chuck is David's stand-in, though he's been upgraded to "Chucknician". Who coined it first? TPTB or the fans?

On the Daedalus, tactical thinking isn't going so well, so John suggests they get Hermiod to override the failsafe, 'cuz "his butt's on the line just as much as ours". Cute to see how Lindsay doesn't want to ask Hermiod to do a site-to-site transport. But, hey, Caldwell gave her an order.

On the city, Rodney and escorts are moving cautiously. Well, how come I can hear their boots on the hard floor? Rodney still doesn't know HOW to operate in stealth mode. The escorts are using hand signals and he's stage whispering he can't understand them. Oy. So, they leave him and instead Mr. Wraith comes to investigate. What? Did he smell dinner?

Well, he gets shot and another drone comes to investigate. There's poor Rodney on the floor, clutching his prezzie. Second drone gets it in the back. Well, we knew they weren't too bright, right?

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Yikes, they found Ford - outside Atlantis, face down in the water. The Daedalus comes in handy again, and beams him to Dr. Beckett. Poor Ford.

Poor Rodney, too. He's never going to get to sleep again. Twelve hive ships heading for Atlantis. Oooo, John is getting fed up with the Wraith always having the upper hand. They are going to them. Hee. Going to kick some Wraith butt.

Eeps - Ford goes to Elizabeth's office? Declares he's fine? With one eye completely black? Not good. And not a good sign of things to come.

Yay! The daedalus has destroyed to hive ships without a sustaining a hit themselves. Not good after that. At least they got away.

Yikes, Ford goes ballistic on poor Dr. Beckett. If Teyla hadn't been there to talk him down... Only Ford really is gone. Man, he doesn't/can't see how badly he's being affected. Beckett is certainly seeing quite a bit of excitement.

Okay, I love this plan the team came up with. What I liked about it best, was that everyone contributed to it. John came up the the original thought, Rodney improved on it by coming up with the cloaking idea, Raydek thought of the jumpers and helped keep Rodney thinking, Teyla can help by 'pushing' the Wraith, and the Colonel has the ship to help protect people. Elizabeth asked the important questions to really solidify it all. Amazing teamwork. I loved really watching it in action.

Part 1C

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I spoke too soon. 'Cuz Rodney's escorts are eliminated by Wraith blasts and he's left all alone. Him and his Beretta. He's putting on a brave act ... and the clip falls out. Um, how bad does a gun have to be for that to happen? What a piece of you-know-what. Then Rodney yells out that he's in trouble. No kidding.

They talk about how originally Rodney was supposed to be like a "stupid oaf". Aww, Rodney. But then they piped in that David was such a great actor. Also, the gun was supposed to merely jam, but it's really hard to get that, so they went with the more visual clip dropping out.

But wait. I spoke too soon again. I guess it's going to be that kind of episode. There's P90 fire that kills both drones. It's Teyla. Where'd she come from? Not that I'm complaining, nor is Rodney. She sounds so ... youthful. Her radio was broken. But, aw, she's complimenting Rodney, saying he was very brave. They have this teensy moment together, but then have to go do the ZedPM installation.

On the Daedalus, Lindsay has just set the timer for 5 seconds. Hermiod agrees it's plenty of time for him. Oh, she's trying to convince him of the necessity of the action, but he cuts her off. He's ready, so she gives the bridge her ... uh ... editorial commentary. ::giggles:: Caldwell takes it under advisement.

The scene between Lindsay and Hermiod was originally a lot longer, but they had to cut it down. Too bad. 'Cuz, her calling him "Herm" would have been a scream. And David says he's just "in awe" of her acting ability.

Eek! I thought there was a malfunction when I heard the clanging sound. But the weapen was away and Hive ship went boom.

Chuck announces the kill and it's interesting to see how much hope and excitement there is on Liz's face.

And Daedalus doesn't even need to go after the cruisers, 'cuz they decided to take their toys and go home. Unfortunately, there's still all those darts being pesky. But not at Daedalus. At Atlantis.

John tells Liz but she can plainly see what the problem is. Also, intercept may be too late. More comments from Chuck and then Radek. Radek's news is extra bad. Velocity of 10,000 kg an hour? That sounds ... devastating.

Sure, John, state the obvious. Yes the shield needs to go up. Just a wee problem. It has to be done within 45 seconds. Rodney does not like being hurried. Um ... he'll have to, or else. Well, he thinks it worked, but it didn't. No shield. Rodney's getting really pissed off. He pushes at the thing and – thankfully – it sinks into the chamber. Radek tries again and it works. While Liz looks out onto the balcony, we see a silvery misty wave go up as the shield is engaged. There's lots of exploding splats against it, with only seconds to spare.

But John doesn't know they're okay, as he tries to raise them on the comm. He's not getting an answer. Then there's a crackle on Atlantis as they finally get his transmission. They confirm they're "still here". John's not thrilled that they scared him. Anyway, Daedalus is going to hang around in orbit and send some crews to help clean out the remaining Wraith in the city. And there's a perfectly amicable parting between John and Caldwell.

Oh, gee, thanks, Liz. You just gave Rodney the rest of the day off. So he lies down On. The. Floor and talks about a ... sandwich. Teyla's not too thrilled with his ... er ... lying down on the job. 'Cuz, hey, there ARE still Wraith out there. Why'd she have to remind us. She gives Rodney a hand up and off they go, Rodney sneering as he checks his totally useless gun in the holster.

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Ford. What can I say. I hate what happens to him.

Then, everything starts happening at once. John goes looking for Ford. The bomb is detonated, Rodney readies the cloak.

Eeps, so much excitement. Now, John confronts Ford, Ford wins, we're waiting to see if the Wraith believe Atlantis is gone, Ford jumps through the gate endangering everyone.

For such a grand three part episode, it ends on such a grim note.

Part 2A

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Suddenly, there are beams of light in a darkened Gate room. Hey, look. It's John. He gets a big hug from Liz. He looks sorta stunned. He usually is, when it comes to hugs. Then there's the "I thought" etc. stuff back and forth. They both have to stop nearly dying. Right? Now that they have the emotional stuff out of the way, Liz gives John a sitrep.

Joe said this was a very tough episode to shoot. They've just come back from hiatus; he's totally forgotten what happened in the first two; he remembered the name of the show and the name of his character, lol. And he had "lambchops" sideburns when he came back. So the Martins are saying that was the first physical contact between the two because they'd cut the sex scenes out of Seige II! What??? Anyway, they said that the hug had nothing to do with shipping. It was just a glad-you're-alive hug.

So, a few Wraith to take care of. But, first, John is told to report to the infirmary because Everett wants to speak with him. And the music gets serious. No wonder. Everett is barely hanging on, so drained, his fingers shaking. And he refers to not having finished their conversation. But he says he owes John an apology. John is so amazingly gracious in saying he's not. But what an admission from Everett, wishing John had been there for him the same way. And John can't handle that, so he trots out the "you'll be fine" speech which gets him a brusque dismissal. Which John replies to with a sharp salute.

The Martins originally felt like cutting the "Grampa" scene. Oh, Joe. He said he was actually "saluting the chocolate tray, right off camera".

Back in Control, Liz, Radek and John are assessing damages and casualties. Oh, yeah. Where's Ford? John is SO smart. If he's not on the city, maybe he's in the water. Bingo. Radek expands the search and there's our boy. Uh, Daedalus, do you deliver? Well, they did. But more than just Aiden. He was sorta, kinda attached still.

How is he? Well, according to Carson, "he should be dead". No kidding, doc. And we learn about the release of the enzyme and that Aiden got it all at once. When it's all gone, so is he. Carson's going to harvest enzyme from the dead Wraith in the morgue. Yuck.

Then Rodney has to interrupt. What? Why isn't he sleeping? Well, there's this matter of Radek getting more sensors up and they only have bad news. Like 12 more Hive ships on their way. Talk about party crashers. Arriving in 36 hours. Um, I don't like that display. Can we change the channel? Oooh. See the look of determination on John's face.

Oh, gee. Caldwell's not thrilled with the news. And Rodney has to make it worse by announcing there are at least 60 Hive ships in this galaxy. So there may be even more arriving beyond the 12.

Okay, I didn't catch this, but supposedly David goofed on one of his lines in this scene and had to correct himself. What, David made a mistake???

Part 2B

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Carefully controlled dialogue between John and Rodney about the shield buying them only so much time.

Rodney doesn't think much about the idea to sink the city. "It's a city, not a yo-yo." FTW. Besides, there's not much that they can do with only one ZedPM.

Well, John's not having any of it. He's sick of the situation. We are, too, John. See the incredulous look on Liz's face. So he 'splains. Um ... "take the fight to them"? Using the handy-dandy souped-up Daedalus.

I love the impatience, 'cuz John's not willing to just "sit around and wait" like the Ancients did. And we already know how stuffy they were about conformity. So, Rodney jumps in to show a schematic of how they could ambush the Wraith. John: "Let's do this." Note he's acting like the commander of the whole darn thing.

They're all laughing because David's doing his "favourite thing" which is sliding about in his chair.

And the Daedalus emerges from hyperspace. Interesting to hear that John has "learned to trust Rodney about these things".

Hermiod is grumbling audibly while Lindsay is setting up the warheads. Hermiod simply ignores her. I don't envy her her job.

So Joe's explaining that he and Hermiod were never in the same scene, so he didn't know he was a puppet. And, when he found out, he wanted to kill him and kill everyone else.

So, Teyla and Liz are talking when who should walk in but ... Aiden. He's looking well. On second thought, closeup shows not so much. Liz and Teyla exchange a look.

On the Daedalus, John hopes that hitting one or two will send a message. Caldwell's such a comedian, stating that "who knows, maybe they'll surrender". Whoa. That was an odd and interesting angle to see the ships emerging. Usually it's heads-on.

And they're ready to fire. It go boom. Another boom. But then the ships are trying to flank Daedalus. And there's something preventing Hermiod from transporting more bombs. Lindsay: "Is there a way to counter the countermeasure?"

Nope. And now the Daedalus is being bombarded, shields are weakening, with casualties on the bridge. John believes they want to board the ship, so they're headed back toward Atlantis. John looks unhappy.

Joking on the commentary. "Apparently the Daedalus is steam-powered." More joking about shoveling more coal.

So they check in and Liz says she'll "keep the porch light on". Yeah, Mom. Then she asks Rodney for options. He's got some snappy suggestions. Or not.

Okay, now that was creepy, to see Aiden just interject himself into the walk, displacing Rodney. Rodney looks creeped out, too. Luckily, Carson shows up. And we see how Aiden reacts when he's cornered. With violent force. Uh, that's not a good thing. When he puts Carson back down on the ground, he looks unsure and troubled. Teyla escorts him back to the infirmary and Liz gives the order for sedation, if necessary. Uh ... that would be a good idea. Carson catches his breath before leaving while Rodney just looks on, stunned.

Part 3A

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Okay, major creepiness. Aiden's lying in bed wearing these huge sunglass goggles as Carson talks to Liz and Teyla. I guess he's supposed to be unconscious, but we can tell he's hearing everything.

The Martins are saying Rainbow kept falling asleep during this scene. So,when they wanted him to open his eyes, they squeezed his toe. [Totally OT, when Brooke Shields made Endless Love (am I remembering the name of the movie correctly), I think she was still underage and, hello, how is someone supposed to portray passion if it hasn't been experienced yet. So the director did the same thing when she was supposed to be experiencing an orgasm. He'd squeeze her toe.] Anyway, they all laughed at his sleeping and continued to talk about the super-hearing. They thought it worked well and I agree. Anyway, one of the Martins wanted it on the record that he thought those glasses were kinda silly. I agree again. More laughing from them all.

And the Daedalus is back, going to land on the East Pier. So we get yet another Star Wars experience (aka the Millenium Falcon landing on Cloud City). Just on their tail are the Hive ships.

Uh-oh. Aiden's just knocked out his guard in the infirmary. And he's shooting at Carson, demanding the rest of the enzyme. He gets one bag and is out of there.

It turns out the cup he threw at his guard was all CG, 'cuz they said it would have been too dangerous to use a real one. Also, they originally hadn't used the patient as a potential target for Aiden but that's what made Carson give in – 'cuz that's what he does when someone else's life is in danger. Okay, so they're still laughing and said they had to remove the sound of the gunshot, 'cuz Rainbow really did kill him. ::rolls eyes::

And the Wraith are there, moving in some sort of formation. Huh. Doesn't look too formal to me. But they don't have to be. According to Rodney, the shield will only hold for days. We see the looks on Rodney's, Liz's, Caldwell's and ... finally John's face. Plus more bombardment against the shield. Rodney says "it looks almost pretty". John doesn't agree. "Almost. Not quite." They they join the rest of the Command staff.

Rodney: "Well, now we know how the Ancients felt." Probably the first time they've received this much sympathy. Then Radek says something and John echoes it. "As long as they know that we're here." Ooooh, John's big brain is working overtime. And Radek and Rodney start doing it, too. With Rodney waving his hand about.

But he has to reveal the teensy matter of being unprotected if they cloak, 'cuz they can't have both cloak and shield.

Then Teyla feels they're close, "close enough for me to connect with them". Okay, so what's she going to do? Ah, sneaky.

They said this was the end of the Teyla-arc that started with The Gift.

It's funny to see Rodney and Radek give differing answers to Liz's how long. So ... a couple hours, right?

Um ... why did Carson run from the infirmary instead of radioing? And we learn that was ALL of the Wraith enzyme.

Also, there was a booboo left in – a yellow mark on the floor – showing where Carson was supposed to stop. Oops.

Part 3B

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As Aiden's doing something (and John's going after him), we see a whole bunch of people moving about, preparing to evacuate. I think that's the first time since Rising that we've seen so many extras about.

That's called a montage and the Martins said it was really hard to shoot.

Teyla sends the message and jolts herself back. We see the city all lit up against a sky that looks like 100% sunset, my fave golden apricot colour.

Hee! They agree with me, that the SFX guys "love their sunsets". "For good reason."

It's time for the detonation and Rodney's "definitely" ready. They put on the weird goggles and close the laptops.

They're all laughing at David's sunglasses.

Okay, now THAT was a big bang. But Rodney has to wait to engage the cloak, otherwise they'll be incinerated. And they're ... [wait for it] cloaked. But it's funny to hear Rodney whisper"They're scanning for us".

Now that the big stuff is out of the way, John finally bumps into Aiden. Who's not being convinced. It's shocking to see that, when John shoots him in the back with a stunner, it has no effect. Aiden's in the transporter and, whoosh, he's gone.

Though, actually, he's not, but Joe's pretending acting as if he's not there.

Rodney's still whispering which Liz thinks is weird. According to Rodney, it's "the right thing to do".

Poor Radek's definitely in the wrong place, as Aiden knocks him out and grabs a case.

It's the first time they had two puddlejumpers In. The. Same. Room. Woo-hoo.

Then the gate's engaged and the 'jumper appears in the Gate room. Um ... is the jumper going through going to mess up the cloak? Ack. This is a very tense time. A staring battle between John and Aiden and John loses. Does anybody else think it's really weird to have John standing SO close to the wormhole?

Geek reference: the 'jumper has a new dashboard because they didn't like last year's model. Also the exterior of the 'jumper looked really good. And lots of fans were doing their thing, noticing that Ford was sitting in the co-pilot's seat, because he didn't have the gene. They're all laughing again, talking about what would have happened if Joe had stood in front of the gate. Well, then he would have been like a bug on the windshieldl. And the show would really be "Joe. In. Jeopardy" where you'd have to wait until next week to see if he'd be back.

Now everybody holds their breath to see if the Wraith detected the gate activity. They're lucky, 'cuz Caldwell announces the Wraith fleet is breaking up and leaving orbit. Rodney's happy to hear that, though he's going to keep the cloak up for a bit longer.

John looks so forlorn standing in front of the inactive gate. Liz comes up to bolster his confidence. That they'll try to find Aiden. And that they're still around to try. We end with some contemplative music as we see the scene from above Atlantis. Does anybody know what that weird whiny whooshing sound was? ::is confused::

Torri and John decided by themselves to play the end scene very down, in contrast to the roller-coaster constant up-down of what had gone before. Of course, David had to jump in. "Seriously, guys, we're awesome." And I think I understand now that the sound accompanied the city's reappearing. They said they hadn't shown it disappear, but had to show it reappearing.

It's a good thing I'm no longer confused, because it's time for the closing credits.

Final thoughts:
I wasn't put off by the wild roller-coaster effect followed by subdued scenes. I think a lot of it had to do with the appearance of Caldwell, Daedalus as well as the bonus Lindsay/Hermiod scenes.

The commentary by the Martins still had gratuitous laughter, but at least it wasn't as juvenile as I've noted in previous episodes. I guess Joe and David were entertaining if less prominent than I'd have liked. And that's a wrap from me.

Re: Part 1A

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More tidbits from the commentary. You're awesome to spend so much time getting the show and the commentary down for us.

I can see Mitch Pileggi as sexy, although I know him better from Supernatural.

Apparently some people don't like Carson, I always did. I find him lovable.

Re: Part 1B

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Rodney still doesn't know HOW to operate in stealth mode. I loved this bit so much. David played it marvelously.

I didn't realize Chuck was a stand-in for David. I'll have to pay more attention in the future. Chucknician is a fun term.

Re: Part 2A

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If he's not on the city, maybe he's in the water. John is very good at thinking outside the box.

Re: Part 3A

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Also, there was a booboo left in Some of my favorite things about commentaries, is finding out what went wrong. Of course, I never notice any of it until it's pointed out, but it's still fun to learn about.

Re: Part 1A

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Okay, I thought I was going out of my mind because the number of comments in my Inbox was more than the number on Intruders. So, you're being all sneaky returning to last week's epi.

Thank you for the compliment. Will you pay for my painkillers, 'cuz OW, it hurts to sit still for so long. But, if I feel it's worth it, then it really is worth it to me. And I am enjoying it.

You know, Mitch in SGA is damned sexy; but Mitch in X-Files is not (and reading X-Files slash fic with him always felt weird to me). I've never watch SPN, so wouldn't know about him in any other roles.

As for Carson, I can take him or leave him. However, I find his soft-heartedness to be sometimes a detraction. For example, if he'd stood up to Michael and refused to help (even though Michael threatened to kill an Athosian every day, I believe), he might have been allowed to die, but - in the end - the hybrids were all killed off anyway. But that's an indictment against TPTB for some very weird scripts. ::sighs::

Re: Part 1A

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Heh, I iz sneaky. I just couldn't stay up late enough to comment on these last week, and kept trying to find time to get back to them during the week, but I could never get it to happen. So, while watching Supernatural last night, I decided that I could do it then.

I'm sorry you get so uncomfortable. My couch isn't the best for this either. Not enough padding. *g*

Oooh, X-Files. That's where I'd seen him before. I never got into that show, but I do remember that he was one of the characters. In an office position or something. I agree, his character in X-Files wasn't sexy for some reason. How weird is that.

Ah, Carson. One of the reasons I like him, is that he's a good friend to Rodney. I also have a soft spot for a Scottish brogue. I loved Scotty's on ST, too. I'll have to pay more attention to Carson's character this time through, but he isn't very pragmatic. I wonder if he modeled himself after the ideal of what he thought a doctor should be. Or maybe it was all about the Hippocratic oath - 'Do no harm...'